wake up guys

[tedpa9]

nstrewartg
Do you think those guys will read and roll it around there heads on how nice it would be to be union? I dont think so. We tried for a long time to put some sence in there heads,it didnt sink in ,there just worried about having to buying a cheep car to go work . OH BOY. I remember working for nifty swiffty and trying to get them to go union, 90% of the drivers went in the back office with Mike and other lyer yanner to point fingers at me and other union drivers so they could get a better load from Mike. They know who they are. Where did it get them?

[carhauler1]

I get a kick out of those who believe that union heads are working in the best interest of the workers they represent first management is partially responsible for failures and they know that but union rules they deal with ties there hands on decisions and how many times have you seen drivers rattling one way past a terminal and and another passing him saying you cannot haul my freight and the other saying the same.? well it's no ones business but the manufacture and they should be able to move it asap!! and how about the driver who loads on friday morning and leaves on monday and tells other driver should of hired in before me that attitude is why unions are were they are at. how many union carhaul companies are left?? damages are the biggest hit the companies take and we all of heard the saying they will build more and oh well paper me or I can use a couple days off that is on drivers not management and how many guys stay at the bar till closing and then sleep till noon and work six or seven hours and are back in the motel ??? Unions need to organize and rebuild they need to get the word out that people are welcome and maybe this will work we all know that accurate and URS and others are paying very low rates and these drivers pay damages and have to pay most or all insurances so it is not a hard sell but unions need better work rules that are good for all not the sick lame and lazy!!!!!

[nstewartg]

Well you are probably talking about yourself, because I worked as a new carhauler for thirty years. Now I'm retired at 53 years old and enjoying every bit of my retirement. Yes it's true that in every walk of life there're slackers, but when it comes to working for a company, the management team have the responsibility to get rid of slackers. But management was in bed with with the slackers, while slackers ratting on other drivers, managemant was steeling from the company, and the the slackers would exit the office with extra loads hanging from their back pockets as part of the pay-off for their services. Some would have dirt mark at the knee area of their pants. That behavior was not the union who is all of the other drivers who are trying to support their families. I think that we all need order in our lives just like we need order in the company we work for, so if that mean that we sould protect our work then so be it; we protect everything else in our lives. My experience in the Teamsters Union was this, I worked very hard for my previous employers, and my union represented me well.

[carhauler1]

Mr.stewart again you must of been the only one in your terminal or your head was burried in the sand with the ones from d.c. you know or should know that there is a lot of sick lame and lazy in the barns and union stewarts and B.A. spend more time on there knees keeping there jobs then organizing or getting out the good word. The work rules must change and you know it and I have retired also and enjoy my retirement but I do try and help others organize and do spend time talking to others but it is hurtful when I call the hall to be told there is NO RESOURCES to help these guys and off the record they say no money in pensions or health accounts to help offset the cost that is ashame that we cannot help these people?!! Mr Stewart look around you how many companies left are hauling cars and are union and how many of them are in bankruptcy???? I worked for cassens and by far are the best but for how much longer?? they all need help and to start the unions need to put pressure on these non-union companies and they will either fall or join either way we ALL win!!!!!!

[skiddrager]

very well put!!!

[nstewartg]

Hi and I hope all is well in your retirement or while you're still working for Cassens Transport. I did address most of the points that you broth up in my last email. As for the three unfortunate things you wrote, I'll try to address them now. The Teamsters Union will stand with any serious group of employees of a non-union employer, that's a fact. Yes it's true that union car carriers are becoming less and less because of the thievings bosses, and their lousy investment in the stock market. Sure they blame the union help because we refused to work for nothing, and we demand resonable bennfit package. Look at all those non-union carriers that took over the product we use to deliver from Selkirk, NY. Example Swift, Blue-Thunder, didn't those non-union carrier screwed the workers that worked for them? How about Accurate Transport, the drivers are crying from what I heard. Monday afternoon while I was on 9W south I saw a driver who I did work with in the past, he went to work for Swift, then Blue-Thunder, bough truck while working with Blue-Thunder, now he's driving a Accurate truck and when he saw me he turn his head so fast I that I smile, because I know that he was trying to hide from me. By the way, he was one of the guys who laughed at us when we lost our union jobs. I'm glad that I stayed with the union because he's driving for Accurare while I am enjoying my pension [ sweet ]

[carhauler1]

Mr.Stewart Apparently you are from the eastern conference and they are a big difference than us in the midwest and west coast as you know I do want to say that those cheating bosses and thieves are the same ones now running the non-union companies and are using the knowledge they learned running union companies and also you now have a non-union owner who is a v.p. of jack cooper and still owns his company please explain that they are all in bed together plus those in d,c. who collect 2 or more checks for jobs they do not do!!!! Mr.stewart you and I collect one check for our service yet those who have sold they're souls to hoffa and others collect 5 or more pension checks FOR WHAT??? you know there is no way they put in the hours to earn those checks.!! So I say to you who is ripping off who our pension is in trouble we are on red alert and we are losing good paying jobs to those who know are work and made friends with the right people and are using them to create the chaos we are dealing with. As for your friend he should not be embarressed to see you you should stop and shake his hand and let him know you are still his friend and buy him a cup of coffee and let him know you care and would help him this means more than laughing at him or calling him scab or whatever these guys are supporting families and have no choice they do not know the laws and and people who can and will help!! They were laid off and well accurate and URS and fleet-car have taken advantage of this and well a job is a job right? I do want to say cassens was and still is a great place to work management has one goal to move freight and do it safe and with quality standards and I know most of the non-union companies will hire people from cassens on the spot cause they know they are trained to be the best so please Mr. stewart enjoy and remember not all managers are thieves and not all union bosses are honest!!!

[9axle]

Allied walked away from Selkirk, from what I heard, the workers comp rate was twice what the rest of the company had. Swift had Ford for 2 years before E and L took it back. When Blue Thunder folded, PTS got the GM. When PTS folded, Accurate took the work because noone else bid on it. To say that the Union work was taken by non-union carriers is not entirely accurate, teamster companies had a presence in Selkirk right up until PTS went under, and weren't interested in the work after that. I at one point heard that Allied was going to take the Ford work when it moved, but didn't, not sure why. I suspect thats why the Union wasn't interested in helping the Accurate guys, they thought that allied was coming back, and the Accurate guys, if union, would follow the work.

[carhauler1]

9axle I believe you're on to something and the teamsters are as usual protecting the old guard and sick lame and lazies accurate and urs and fleet-car and all the others know that they are protected from the unions cause they have friends in the right place. As far as giving freight away they give away what they determine to be non-profitable and a waste of truck time or equipment utilazation.!! We need to have more transparency in the business and the unions have the power to post the rates and show everyone how bad they are being ripped off!! The double breasting that is being done now is a invention of management that used to be union managers!! The union companies have a plan and eventually these small companies will be broke and gone it's a slow process but working with no help from unions.!trans logic is out of business and now accurate is having problems cannot afford to fix equipment and drivers quitting and tran tech cannot hire as they quit as soon as they see the rates and realize they pay to move the freight 20 drivers quit around 2 weeks ago! So eventually the union companies will get back most the freight at rates they can live with.9axle I'll give a example of rates a union load out of new boston Mi.1 to 15 miles is $ 94.00 and a load out of centerville Ill for non-union truck is $35.00 to driver both same amount of units and same miles!!! try making a living on them wages and at centerville those drivers pay for any damages period.!! It's worse and I can tell you some rates make no sense at all other than these companies are really ripping drivers off.

[nstewartg]

Well, we the union drivers who used to work out of Selkirk, NY. We have been getting a raw deal since 2002. Yes, E & L Transport did took ford work from swift and hired union drivers to deliver the cars. E & L thought that ford was been honest about E & L keeping the work in Selkirk NY. We the drivers was also lied to by ford and E & L with promises if we work a flex work weak, and a day and night shift then ford wouldn't give the work to another carrier. We work our asses off hauling those cars damage free to all of the dealers, and to show their appreciation for our hard-work, ford gave the work to Accurate Transport. Leaseway Motorcar came into the selkirk terminal two months later, again we were hired with with many promises. Boy we worked hard to preserve that work in selkirk, but the management full their pockets with the money from leaseway, and at the same time asked us to take a pay cut; Basically, they wanted us to work for free. The banks also knew that leaseway management was bunch of thieves, so the banks refused to lend leaseway the millions of dollars leaseway ask for. As for me, I have heard enough from those lying and thieving trucking companies, that is why I decided to retired last year.